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- 40Hex Number 5 Volume 2 Issue 1 File 004
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- Forty Hex 5
- Presents
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- An Alliance Interview with
- John McAfee + Jon Dvorak
- and
- Hellraiser, Garbageheap, DecimatoR,
- Count Zero, CRoW MeiSTeR, Instigator,
- Demogorgon, Dark Angel, Night Crawler,
- VenoM, Time Lord, Darkman.
-
- On Feb. 2nd of 1992, an alliance was run with members of PHALCON/SKISM,
- NuKE, and Ex-RABiD. We started the conference by trying to call Patti
- Hoffman, who had a shit fit, and denied being the author of VSUM. Nice
- of her to insult our intelligence. But anyways, we then called McAfee,
- who was surprisingly a nice guy. He was interested in what we had to say.
- Some of the topics covered were which viruses we had written, what types
- of viri they were(i.e. MemRes, Stealth...). Another important topic
- covered the Bob Ross Virus which an associate of McAfee had misnamed the
- Beta Virus(it was first spread on a false version of BNU(1.90Beta)).
-
- On the following day, we started a second alliance, this time involving
- Count Zero, CRoW MeiSTeR, Dark Angel, Demogorgon, Garbageheap(moi!),
- Hellraiser, Instigator, Night Crawler and Time Lord. Also in the
- conference were John Markoff(New York Times), Michael Alexander(Computer
- World), and John McAfee. A variety of topics were covered, I won't go into
- specifics here, because in a future issue we will have a full transcript,
- and in this issue we will have the article from the Feb. 10,1992 Vol.XXVI
- No. 6 issue of COMPUTERWORLD.
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- CHALLENGE, NOTORIETY CITED AS IMPETUS FOR VIRUS DEVELOPERS(*Catchy title*)
- By: Michael Alexander/CW STAFF
-
- What motivates a programmer to write a virus? The thrill, declared
- Hell Raiser,(* that is supposed to be Hellraiser *) a self-styled virus
- author and a member of Phalcon/Skism, a group of about a dozen computer
- hackers scattered across North America.
- In an unusual telephone conference call to COMPUTERWORLD last week, 10
- callers who said they were members of Phalcon/Skism claimed to be
- responsible for writing several of the viruses now on the
- loose.(* CLAIMED?!?!?!! Well, I suppose that he couldnt know if we were the
- real McCoy *)
- To protect their identities, the callers used such handles as Garbage
- Heap(* Grabbin' top billin'! *), Nightcrawler, Demogorgon, Dark Angel, and
- Time Lord. They said their ages range from 15 to 23 years old, although
- COMPUTERWORLD could not independantly verify their identities.
-
- GETTING ATTENTION
- -----------------
- The virus authors, as they called themselves, said they arranged the
- teleconference to air their side of the story, and to talk about their
- unorthadox and contradictory brand of computer ethics. (* Well... close,
- we were real bored... of course, who wants to talk to bored virus
- authors... *) "For the most part, virus authors are seen as a lot more
- malicious than we actually are," Garbage Heap said.
- His compatriots said they write viruses mainly for the thrill but
- also for the challenge and the status it brings within the computer
- underground. The group said it is not interested in doing harm, and
- seldom creates viruses that are deliberately designed to cause damage.
- "It's sort of like graffiti - getting our name across - and damage
- happens in the process," he claimed.(* Hellraiser *)
- As an example of the type of virus they write, the group took credit
- for writing the Bob Ross Virus, named after the painter of the same name on
- who hosts a show on Public Broadcasting Service.
- "What it does is infect files and randomly displays 'Bobisms,' which
- are messages Bob Ross would say," Hell Raiser said. "It doesn't format
- the hard drive or do any damage."
- However, other alleged members of Phalcon/Skism later admitted to
- writing viruses that are clearly intended to damage or destroy programs
- and data.(* Hellraiser again... *)
- The callers contended that they are virus "authors," not virus
- "spreaders," and that they are not responsible for the problems their
- creations cause.
- "The main difference is that an author may write a virus and may even
- upload that virus to a virus board, a [bulletin Board system] oriented to
- virus programmers and spreaders," one virus author explained.
- "People, like a disgruntled employee who may have a gripe with
- someone else, download it and spread it that way," this virus author said.
-
- NOT LAWBREAKERS
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- The virus authors also pointed out that since the act of writing a
- virus is not prohibited by law, they should not be viewed as criminals.
- The callers claimed that even if the group stopped writing viruses,
- the number of infections would not decline. The problem of viruses has
- grown so large that new viruses have no impact overall, one said.
- "Our effect is fairly little," he asserted.
- The callers said that they have been writing viruses for about a
- year, and would probably continue for at least another year. Eventually,
- they hope to find jobs as full time programmers, several said.
- There is no way to verify the callers' claims. However, many of the
- monikers the callers used, as well as the name "Phalcon/Skism," have shown
- up in perhaps as many as half - about 100 - of the viruses to appear
- in the past six or seven months, said John McAfee, president of McAfee
- Associates, an antivirus software publisher based in Santa Clara,Calif.
- The quality of the viruses is "mediocre," Mcafee said. (* Cant win
- 'em all can we, John? *)
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- My thoughts on the article was that it was neutral, Mr. Alexander could
- have easily ripped us apart. We didnt expect to come out looking like
- heros, so why should we bitch. Next month prepare for the official
- transcript of the interview. Then we can truly establish what was said.
-
- -)GHeap
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